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Re: Weihnachtsmarkt, Breitscheidplatz, Berlin 19.12.2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:11 pm
by MrWoollie
Now, Now. A couple of points...

It is MrQ's train set and if he wants to go off piste, he can.
Sometimes it's fun to poke the bear, so here goes.

Mr Q wrote:As for Pauline Hanson, it's worth remembering just how she got into politics in the first place - as the Liberal candidate for Oxley. She might have been disendorsed prior to the election - though nowadays she'd have been unremarkable - but she did enough to work her way up the political tree inside a major political party to get to be a winning candidate. No outsider there. She was in politics because the Liberal Party got her there.

I guess that's the difference between the Libs and Labor.
When the Libs work out that they have pre-selected a total idiot (PH) or have a rotten apple in the barrel (Peter Slipper), they de-select them.
In Labor they gleefully take them on board/offer them spots (Peter Slipper, Cheryl Kernot) or promote them and protect them as long as possible (Eddie Obied, Craig Thompson etc.)

Re: Weihnachtsmarkt, Breitscheidplatz, Berlin 19.12.2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:59 pm
by ruckroving
No. When the Liberals realise they have a total idiot they more often promote them to Cabinet: Peter Dutton, Scott Morrison, Joe Hockey. Or to Prime Minister: Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull.

Re: Weihnachtsmarkt, Breitscheidplatz, Berlin 19.12.2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:53 pm
by MrWoollie
ruckroving wrote:No. When the Liberals realise they have a total idiot they more often promote them to Cabinet: Peter Dutton, Scott Morrison, Joe Hockey. Or to Prime Minister: Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull.

I was actually just poking the MrQ (somewhere to the left of Trotsky) bear.
I actually do not have a lot of time for many politicians of either side. There are good and bad on both sides.
I have met some that were lovely people but poor politicians, some that were good pollies but absolute a***holes and some I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

Re: Weihnachtsmarkt, Breitscheidplatz, Berlin 19.12.2016

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:26 am
by Crazy Dazz
Sometimes Mr Q annoys me with his Leftist rants, and if I wanted to kill him, he would be dead. Tis very easy to kill somebody.
Fortunately, I may have issues, but I'm not a homicidal sociopath. Nor are most people, nor most Moslems.
I have flown extensively over the past decade. I hate to tell you just how easy it would be to bring down a plane, especially if I was happy to go down with it. Fortunately I am not a terrorist, and then again neither are most Moslems.

Quite recently, their was a "radical Islamic preacher" (for want of a better term) who decided to visit Perth to spread his message. The local Islamic leadership got together and basically ran him out of town. I don't know what the average Moslem cleric preaches in Australia, and if indeed they are preaching hatred and/or intolerance, then yes they need to be stopped. But apart from a handful of idiots I see no evidence this is so.
I'm not putting my head in the sand, such people obviously do exist, and they need to be rooted out and silenced (if necessary by incarceration.) But we also should not act as though these represent even a signifiant portion of the Islamic population. In fact the actions of terrorists are so far removed from ordinary Moslems, that their religious claims are irrelevant.
It's like blaming Catholics for the actions of the IRA.

Sadly, there will always be a few mongrel dogs who wish to visit harm on others. These scum are not restricted to any particular ethnicity or Religion (although most seem to be Male.) All we can do is empower our Police to do their jobs, be sensible and cautious, and get on with our lives.

Re: Weihnachtsmarkt, Breitscheidplatz, Berlin 19.12.2016

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:37 pm
by Eliot Mess
Crazy Dazz wrote:Sometimes Mr Q annoys me with his Leftist rants, and if I wanted to kill him, he would be dead. Tis very easy to kill somebody.
Fortunately, I may have issues, but I'm not a homicidal sociopath. Nor are most people, nor most Moslems.
I have flown extensively over the past decade. I hate to tell you just how easy it would be to bring down a plane, especially if I was happy to go down with it. Fortunately I am not a terrorist, and then again neither are most Moslems.

Quite recently, their was a "radical Islamic preacher" (for want of a better term) who decided to visit Perth to spread his message. The local Islamic leadership got together and basically ran him out of town. I don't know what the average Moslem cleric preaches in Australia, and if indeed they are preaching hatred and/or intolerance, then yes they need to be stopped. But apart from a handful of idiots I see no evidence this is so.
I'm not putting my head in the sand, such people obviously do exist, and they need to be rooted out and silenced (if necessary by incarceration.) But we also should not act as though these represent even a signifiant portion of the Islamic population. In fact the actions of terrorists are so far removed from ordinary Moslems, that their religious claims are irrelevant.
It's like blaming Catholics for the actions of the IRA.

Sadly, there will always be a few mongrel dogs who wish to visit harm on others. These scum are not restricted to any particular ethnicity or Religion (although most seem to be Male.) All we can do is empower our Police to do their jobs, be sensible and cautious, and get on with our lives.


Just a suggestion: I have met you and know you to be a nice person. I understand the thrust of your post to be that everything and everyone is vulnerable to ill-will getting acted on.....but I think the red mentions above could do with an edit (now that you've got made your point). It feels really different when the person mentioned actually reads it... a high chance of sounding like a hinted threat, when you meant the opposite.