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WA State Election 2017

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Who will you be voting for?

Liberal
6
27%
Labour
6
27%
Green
2
9%
One Nation
6
27%
Nationals
1
5%
Shooters, Fishers, Idiots
1
5%
Other
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WA State Election 2017

Postby The Boat on Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:36 pm

A few big announcements coming through, must be election time. Oh yeah, Pauline's in town too.

Perth to get their very own WTC - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-18/w ... th/8191422
One Nation to contest 45 WA Lower House seats - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-19/p ... es/8193776

Will Labour win simply by being the alternative? Will Colin hold one? Should be a massive election.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Fat Side on Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:11 am

Labor have a steep hill to climb to win. 10 seats is huge at state level and the electoral boundary changes doesn't do them any favours. Although 10% swings are not unheard of in recent years, it is a big ask. McGowan needs to come out firing. Barnett is the fly in the ointment for the Libs. He goes, Harvey steps in, they will probably win. Barnett for eight years has tired people out and they're looking for a change, but Barnett won't step aside now and nobody has the courage to challenge him.

One Nation will be interesting. I wonder whether the Trump outcome will sober up those just looking to protest against the major parties (establishment). The first month or two of Trump may sober them up. Either way their input will be worth watching. 45 candidates is huge and has some potential to win Govt. Are they ready to govern? the answer is no and it isn't what they're seeking. They just want the balance of power. Barnett is aligning himself with some ON policies (No Hijab) while ON is aligning itself with Labor policies (no Roe 8, no privatisation of WP).

The Nats are the curious ones. Grylls is stinking to high heaven in the Pilbara and that could return to Labor. I don't otherwise see them having much of an impact in the overall result.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Total Package on Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:12 pm

Colin Barnett for sure has my vote.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby WCE06 on Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:23 pm

Barnett for mine. Has delivered a good infrastructure program and got things done despite a tough market.

Plus I couldn't bring myself to vote for McGovern, he's a nothing.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby farmer joe on Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:45 pm

Wish I lived in Dawesville.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 1f2eb977f1

Saw Troy the boy Buswell out and about in my home town last week. Looking good and relaxed. Still think it is a pity that it all got to him.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby jourgo on Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:01 pm

All told its a pretty sorry state of affairs we find ourselves in. WA state politics is very much mirroring Federal politics in as much as there isn't a great deal of love for the incumbent but the opposition is barely viable.

When McGowan took over as leader of WA Labor I thought at the time he's going to need to tone down the attack dog bluster or he's just going to turn people off, but he's actually gone a bit too far. He's almost become too meek to be seen as a strong enough leader to be rubbing shoulders with other state premiers. He needs to step up his game and soon.

I get what you mean about Buswell there Joe - despite his sometimes appalling personal judgement, he had talent for the game.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Total Package on Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:03 pm

WCE06 wrote:Barnett for mine. Has delivered a good infrastructure program and got things done despite a tough market.


yup. It reminds me so much of what happened in Victoria when Jeff Kennett took up office in 1992. Kennett took over a state that was deep on debt... so basically cut the fat.. sacked a whole bunch of public servants and then started privatised everything. Then he went on an absolute spending spree...

The Kennett government also embarked on a series of high-profile capital works projects, such as the restoration of Parliament House (never completed), construction of a new $250 million Melbourne Museum and IMAX theatre, and a new $130 million Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Centre (still known colloquially as 'Jeff's Shed'). Other projects, made possible in monetary terms by the early cutbacks and budget restructuring, included a $160 million expansion of the National Gallery of Victoria; $100 million for refurbishment of the State Library of Victoria; $65 million for a new Melbourne Sports and Aquatic Centre (MSAC); and $130 million for the construction of a new civic square on the site of the old Gas and Fuel Buildings, to be known as Federation Square.

The relocation of the Formula 1 Grand Prix from Adelaide in 1993 was a particular coup for Kennett, who had worked hard with his friend Ron Walker, the Chairman of the Melbourne Major Events Company, helped deliver Melbourne the hosting rights for the event from Adelaide in 1993.[25]

The most controversial project of the Kennett era was the $1.85 billion Crown Casino and Entertainment Complex, a gambling and entertainment centre on Melbourne's Southbank. Initial plans for a casino had been made under the Labor government, however the tendering process and construction occurred under Kennett. Allegations of financial inconsistencies in the tendering process (which eventually saw longtime Kennett supporters Ron Walker and Lloyd Williams successful) were to dog the Kennett government for many years, despite the verdict of an enquiry which found no wrongdoing on its behalf.[citation needed]

A $2 billion project to redevelop Melbourne's derelict Docklands area to include a new football stadium was also undertaken, in addition to the large CityLink project, a project resurrected from the 1969 Melbourne Transportation Plan, aimed at linking Melbourne's freeways, easing traffic problems in the inner city, and reducing commuting times from the outer suburbs to the CBD.[citation needed]


Sound familiar to Colin? People at the time thought Kennett was wasting money they didnt have... and he was copping the same crap Colin does. Now everyone looks back on what he did to make Melbourne the city it is now. Imagine travelling to Melbourne with no Docklands area and new stadium, No Crown casino complex at Southbank, No Formula 1... etc etc.

People will eventually look back on Colin 20 years from now and say thank god he had the balls to spend the money when he did... because of all the new stuff we have. Perth is changing big time for the better.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Crazy Dazz on Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:48 pm

Lets just hope Colin remembers his (recent) history, and doesn't get sucked into anti-Hanson con that cost Dicky government.

One Nation will get votes, not necessarily because people support their more outlandish claims, but because they're sick of the majors, and tired of being brow-beaten by the green fascists.

As the old adage goes, in WA if you want better trains vote Labour, if you want better roads vote Liberal. And I don't use trains. :twisted:
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Mr Q on Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:06 pm

Crazy Dazz wrote:As the old adage goes, in WA if you want better trains vote Labour, if you want better roads vote Liberal. And I don't use trains. :twisted:


No, it should read "if you want *more* roads".

More roads does not equate to better roads. Usually the main impact of more roads is more traffic, and more congestion. It's called induced demand, and it's why most parts of the world have abandoned the idea of urban freeways. They do nothing to solve traffic issues - the only way to do that is to reduce the amount of traffic.

Take the Perth Freight Link. Assume both Roe 8 and Roe 9 are built. It will drop the end of a freeway at the corner of High Road and Stirling Hwy in Fremantle. Do you think that the traffic will flow through that intersection well if *more* traffic is encouraged to get there by a nice shiny new freeway? I don't.

But if you get the trucks off the roads by moving the freight to the harbour onto trains, then you can reduce total traffic flow.

You don't use trains? So what? Trains are still of more benefit to you than more roads are. Or indeed more road lanes.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Hamburger on Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:16 am

Will be voting for Labor this time around.
Generally feel that a couple of terms is all most parties should get in office. Then they lose momentum and ideas while developing all sorts of dependencies and connections that lead through special favours to outright corruption.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Fat Side on Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:17 am

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-23/w ... gs/8202738

Western Australia continues to have the worst performing economy in the nation, with house prices tumbling alongside economic growth and investment contracts.


Barnett has run the strongest performing economy into the ditch. If he's re-elected we will be facing a $70-80 billion debt in four years. Up from $3 Billion in 2008.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Total Package on Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:14 pm

Fat Side wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-23/wa-last-place-in-states-and-territories-eceonomic-rankings/8202738

Western Australia continues to have the worst performing economy in the nation, with house prices tumbling alongside economic growth and investment contracts.


Barnett has run the strongest performing economy into the ditch. If he's re-elected we will be facing a $70-80 billion debt in four years. Up from $Billion in 2008.


I think Housing prices coming down is a good thing... they were artificially too high for far too long. Might not want to be what the real state investors want to hear... but that's the risk you take.

I also think the Mining collapse had something to do with the economy... and not sure Barnett could do much about that. This state will always rely on Mining.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby domo_the_eagle on Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:24 pm

Fat Side wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-23/wa-last-place-in-states-and-territories-eceonomic-rankings/8202738

Western Australia continues to have the worst performing economy in the nation, with house prices tumbling alongside economic growth and investment contracts.


Barnett has run the strongest performing economy into the ditch. If he's re-elected we will be facing a $70-80 billion debt in four years. Up from $Billion in 2008.


The only reason this economy was booming was down to the O&G and mining booms. The previous government failed to optimise on that.

Now the booms over, im still waiting for the cost of living to reduce to acceptable levels.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Fat Side on Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:39 pm

Total Package wrote:
Fat Side wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-23/wa-last-place-in-states-and-territories-eceonomic-rankings/8202738

Western Australia continues to have the worst performing economy in the nation, with house prices tumbling alongside economic growth and investment contracts.


Barnett has run the strongest performing economy into the ditch. If he's re-elected we will be facing a $70-80 billion debt in four years. Up from $Billion in 2008.


I also think the Mining collapse had something to do with the economy... and not sure Barnett could do much about that. This state will always rely on Mining.


He could do something about his drunken sailor spending.
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Re: WA State Election 2017

Postby Total Package on Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:11 pm

Fat Side wrote:
Total Package wrote:I also think the Mining collapse had something to do with the economy... and not sure Barnett could do much about that. This state will always rely on Mining.


He could do something about his drunken sailor spending.


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