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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby HH on Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:25 pm

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farmer joe wrote:The Eagles and Dockers boards being independent of their owner (the WAFC) and doing what makes sense for their clubs and their members? Haha bloody ha.


I guess though an element of that will be the expected cost to members.

If a membership goes from $450 in 2017 to $750 because of the costs at the new stadium for an equivalent seat, then they'd have to look at staying put in the best financial interests of their members (we already have some of the most expensive memberships in the land - probably because we don't have pokie palaces like the Vic clubs do, and we can't really afford massive hits there.


Please explain why seat costs will go up by $300 in light of the analysis on the three outstanding points for the state government's deal? Across a 60,000 stadium seat, given the $1m difference, this only equates to $16.67 increase per seat even if they were to pass the entire amount to the member.

Oh and let's not forget the underlying reason the WAFC is fighting for this. They want the guaranteed revenue stream to fund grass roots footy. This has nothing to do with members' rights. It is just spin that they are fighting to keep costs down for the benefit of members and some of y'all are still buying it.

The WAFC are using members as leverage to get the WA taxpayer to fund a 50 year $11m dollar per year guaranteed revenue stream plus relocation costs (quantum unknown) so they can fund grassroots footy and continue to operate in their incompetent unaccountable manner. And they have the gall to spin this to say they are fighting to keep costs down for the members. Rubbish.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby HH on Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:02 am

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-2 ... ed/8665350

Can't wait for the details of the deal and the new funding model for grassroots footy in particular.

Regardless of what the detail may be, question why does the WAFC need to fund so called grassroots footy in the era of a national competition? Why spend WA taxpayers money on talent which ultimately might not play for a WA team?

The AFL pours money into NSW and Queensland and it should do the same for WA as it is a national competition. WA taxpayers should not foot the bill to train and develop a young WA boy who ends up getting drafted to an Eastern states' team.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby Pinion King on Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:28 am

HH wrote:Regardless of what the detail may be, question why does the WAFC need to find so called grassroots footy in the era of a national competition? Why spend WA taxpayers money on talent which ultimately might not play for a WA team?

The AFL pours money into NSW and Queensland and it should do the same for WA as it is a national competition. WA taxpayers should not foot the bill to train and develop a young WA boy who ends up getting drafted to an Eastern states' team.

AFL won't even put money forward for the stadium. Yet they poured money into Adelaide Oval and MCG. They also tax our clubs heavily.

Conversation for another topic anyway.

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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby aquila audax on Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:27 am

HH wrote:http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-29/perth-stadium-deal-reached/8665350

Can't wait for the details of the deal and the new funding model for grassroots footy in particular.

Regardless of what the detail may be, question why does the WAFC need to fund so called grassroots footy in the era of a national competition? Why spend WA taxpayers money on talent which ultimately might not play for a WA team?

The AFL pours money into NSW and Queensland and it should do the same for WA as it is a national competition. WA taxpayers should not foot the bill to train and develop a young WA boy who ends up getting drafted to an Eastern states' team.


Because W.A. is such a vast state and regional football clubs are integral to the communities they are located in .
It is not about the elite few who may end up playing AFL , but the rank and file players who have something to immerse themselves in , in such remote areas , that no one else is going to support them .

If you waited for an eastern states based organisation to give them any support whatsoever , you would die waiting .

Having said that , if we provide all the support for this area , then we should have the same access to all the players it develops in the same fashion that Sydney ( and ? GWS ) have to the NSW academy .
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby Fair Bump Play On on Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:10 am

Last couple of weeks driving past Lathlain Oval at night time I have noticed that people are now training under lights on the second new oval, the one that is MCG size. So when it looks like we will be playing finals at the MCG this year we will have a place to train...
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby Pinion King on Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:51 pm

Apparently the NRL are going to open Perth Stadium now.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby MrWoollie on Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:05 pm

Pinion King wrote:Apparently the NRL are going to open Perth Stadium now.

If true that is a slap in the face to the sport that has made the stadium necessary and will be the #1 user and payer.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby HH on Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:31 pm

Pretty hard to characterise this as a slap in the face to AFL footy when no deal between the government and the WAFC has been done despite reports of 99.98% done and "in principle" agreement.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby ruckroving on Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:25 pm

In ten years time, who will care who opened the stadium? We'll still be paying it off with increased prices for memberships and refreshments. Colin Barnett will be comfortably retired at Eagle Bay and James Packer will still be thanking him for all the extra revenue.

I reckon the more events held at the stadium before the first Eagles game the better. Time for them to sort out what could be chaotic transport arrangements and get the lead out of the pipes before most of us have to go there.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby Fat Side on Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:31 am

ruckroving wrote:In ten years time, who will care who opened the stadium? We'll still be paying it off with increased prices for memberships and refreshments. Colin Barnett will be comfortably retired at Eagle Bay and James Packer will still be thanking him for all the extra revenue.

I reckon the more events held at the stadium before the first Eagles game the better. Time for them to sort out what could be chaotic transport arrangements and get the lead out of the pipes before most of us have to go there.


There will no doubt be a preseason game held there anyway.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby Fat Side on Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:19 am

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-29/e ... al-in-days

Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett assured AFL.com.au on Tuesday morning the deal to play AFL games at the new $1.5billion stadium would be finalised soon..."I don't think there are too many sticking points, and hopefully it'll get done this week," he said.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby penrith eagle on Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:38 am

ruckroving wrote:I reckon the more events held at the stadium before the first Eagles game the better. Time for them to sort out what could be chaotic transport arrangements and get the lead out of the pipes before most of us have to go there.


Yup spot on good call.....there will some issues and it will give them time to rectify for us
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby Pinion King on Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:44 am

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ruckroving wrote:I reckon the more events held at the stadium before the first Eagles game the better. Time for them to sort out what could be chaotic transport arrangements and get the lead out of the pipes before most of us have to go there.


Yup spot on good call.....there will some issues and it will give them time to rectify for us

As long as we play there before the mob down the road.

The NRL will play there first, but the huge extravagant opening won't be until the AFL clubs do.
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby HH on Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:55 am

The regular season is over, we've said goodbye to Subi Oval, our seat registrations are in and our boys just won an exciting heart-stopping away final in extra time and yet.......surprise surprise....still no deal:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western ... 8b32713fe3

The precious WAFC is still going for a 50 year deal. This quote is telling:

WAFC chief executive officer Gavin Taylor fired back yesterday, saying the commission was “not seeking a government handout”.

“We are seeking a sustainable share of the football-generated revenues from the stadium to assist in funding grassroots football,” he said.

And in a warning to the Government he said “all football parties must be collectively satisfied to finalise the deal”.


With respect Gavin, a government handout is just another way to say that you actually expect the WA taxpayer to fund an unrealistic 50 year revenue stream so that the WAFC, in turn, can fund grassroots footy along the same cozy lines as it has been doing. The State is under severe debt and there is no more capacity for the WA taxpayer to pay for this.

Do you Eagles (and Dockers for that matter) fans who are also WAFC apologists still believe they have members' interests at heart and the sole sticking point is that they are fighting to keep costs down for you?
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Re: The Everlasting Stadium Thread.

Postby Mead on Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:32 pm

The state really needs to start thinking about some tasteful bronze statues of great western australian sporting moments out the front of the new stadium. I suggest the following.


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Just for added troll factor the statue should include motion activated sensors which cause it to raise its arm when people walk close.
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